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“Solar power and wind generators are placed all along the pipeline. On downward slopes we put these turbines into play, using gravity, another constant source, to do our work. If this whole symbiotic system is plugged into a smart-grid it can redistribute enough power to the right pump stations to keep the flow going. Once we have that we have a fluidic system that powers hydroelectricity. This brings clean water and power. Tributary Stations can be placed at intervals all along these things”.


Multiple Forces applied to 2 Utilities of Highest Importance. Solves Multiple Problems. Water and Electricity. Smart Grid.  Leads to Hydro-Powered Cities and better Air. A reverse-engineered river that generates electricity. Self-contained utilities. High Tech Turbine Tubes.

Basically a Self-Powered Pipeline that generates hydroelectricity and provides water, but on a massive scale. Parts of it can be done on a smaller scale. The basic part is contained as The Hydra, the biggest application is Eco-Stabilizer. Use every force of nature towards one goal.

This would be a series of pipelines connected to desalinization and purification plants at the coasts. Tidal power is a steady source and wind and  solar power is fairly steady there as well. Suction and Displacement helps as well  in this model. 

Pipes can be built with water turbines incorporated in them, topside would produce less drag. It hits the bottom instead of a water-wheel version.  Smart-Grid and Computer-Grid-Pump Station and maximize distribution of power to needed stations along the pipeline. Once basic flow is going speed it up like an engine, this is where the extra force to power hydro-electric waterwheels comes in, turning it into a hydroelectric project.

The funnel represents coning water into a get, the jet is represented by the water hose spray head. The windflower represents a water wheel taken from a wind tower. 

“I coned water into hitting a wind-tower, stripped of it’s blades, and used the bottom side and speed and power of pressure from funneled effect. I put a wind-farm on a pipeline, and powered it with water instead of wind.”

Bottom Hit Water Turbines are taken off of wind-power wheel and waterwheel power and coned water jets hitting them, it is the high speed and jet point pressure punch vs high strength of the big water and the more drag of the mechanical waterwheel. This falls away from the wheel and is honed to speed and power, as opposed to into the wheel gum it up. Funnel the water into a cone and jet water to get maximum spin.

The funneled pipe can flow right back into the bigger pipe self-contained fluidic system, perhaps snaking up to the top as it goes down-slope and dropping back in.  Use multiple amounts of these to maximize effects of power output.These outer funnel pipes are accompanied by water diversion plates built inside main pipe. Like fluid control in mechanics. The water is temporarily out of the main pipe, but is funneled back in. Suction should be kept, airtight unit. One could even use this type of tech for water towers, place at bottom and let gravity and pressure do the work.

Solar power and wind generators are placed all along the pipeline. On downward slopes we put these turbines into play, using gravity, another constant source, to do our work. If this whole symbiotic system is plugged into a smart-grid it can redistribute enough power to the right pump stations to keep the flow going. Once we have that we have a fluidic system that powers hydroelectricity. This brings clean water and power. Tributary Stations can be placed at intervals all along these things.

If we go from there we realize that our cities are filled with fluidic system plumbing, all of it could generate power with pipe-turbines.

We don’t hook these up to cities at first, but put them into the water tables we have been sucking dry, after going into another purification/desalination plant, to insure water is safe. A rising water table lifts all life boats as it were. If we can kick-start mother nature, she will will produce more plant-life. This helps filter carbon. Carbon Sinks. We already have existing ability to get water out of ground.

If we have enough of these around the world we can lower the rising sea level as well as bring water to places that need it to cure starvation. Everything must first be precision gauged and recorded. We needed to know exactitude so we don’t overdo things here. We can perhaps even assist currents in the ocean by displacement, by positioning the intakes, speeding it up through pumping. (Though I put no stock in this and it would probably just disperse the current out and make it worse, I like to jot down the thinking style. There may be pressure alleviation from a larger distance that would help the current)

Filter algae at intake.

This is also usable in river and lake areas.

It is basically a reverse-engineered river done as a pipeline and then back into a normal river direction, a ‘man made overground river pipeline’.

A river could be purified and produce power with this concept. The water flows right back into the existing river, downriver. And  back into ocean eventually. It can also be used off existing dam. This will slowly purify the rivers and contaminated coastline of oceans.

“Bringing water to enough places around earth to ensure plant life grows in abundance helps stabilize the ecosystem. Keep watering the earth and growing plant life back up into abundance. This should help a bit with oxygen in the future as well alleviation from temperatures now.”

Next step is to have diversionary tracts to set up powering cities. This will power cities and ensure there is no water over-saturation in a region this may cause a problem to. Hook it all back into rivers, and add filtration to rivers. This is a slow purification processes of the earths water system in rivers and coastal contaminated region simply by hooking purifiers up to the natural flow through it over centuries.

Something this massive must be done with advanced knowledge of the impact of so large an intervention in the natural systems of earth. We not only have that knowledge and ability, we have already begun to throw the natural cycle off balance. We go for the assisting nature approach. We subvert the need for rain to irrigate our crops, sustain the natural life we have impacted, and insure drinkable water is supplied.

Purified salt can be used for food, and for saline redistribution in freshwater intrusion zones that have been impacted by melting glaciers, or human disturbance, if applicable. For input of former saltwater into freshwater water tables, multiple fail-safes should be used.

Solar power in regions like the middle-east is abundant. A self-powered pipeline to bring clean water and power to people would help bring peace. If we can tweak this system for maximum output and it serves as the answer to renewable energy, this eliminates an excuse for nuclear power in the most dangerous regions of the world.   Large reservoirs can also be set up, and we can use trains or trucks to get water to places not reached. “Never get rid of the Deserts of Earth, just make oasis in a few, and reclamation lost habitation lands from desertification”.

If we develop this type of model we may actually walk away with an energy source that actively fights global warming and stabilizes ecosystem.

The initial cost in $ and resources would be high, but I think America wants a bold American style fight to global warming. Or the world. This country is in need of a huge project that is a technological marvel. This could kick-start the economy in the right sectors as well.The payoff is a cure for lack of water for all time, far more important than just renewable energy. We have already perfected every aspect of this project. Convert oil companies into water companies. Two Utilities are derived from this, incentive.I think every American can agree on a need to deal with lack of water. Irrigate America and save us all. Lets build pipelines.

Tidal Power Hydra:

Wave hits trumpet-flared pipeline at small distance off coast, rifles through Hydro-Electric Turbine, maximum frictionless/fluid motion, then recedes back underground, where gravity is used again for hydro-electric.

Tide power is used to defeat Mountain. (I first envisioned this like siphoning gas out of a car, but it was water out of the ocean, and the mountain was like the lip over where the fuel nozzle goes to fill the car, and later thought of using the gravity assist of the mountain, just using the easy mountain water down-slope, and not the ocean).

So when confronted with “they already tried to siphon the ocean, dolt! It doesn’t work like that on a bigger scale” this is what came about:airtight, elastic rubber lined to assist vacuum suction force, and big initial push for Vacuum force exploitation. Periodic pump assisted siphon suction if that doesn’t work. Tide power local pump, and use local mountain to get an initial place to roller-coast off of into the rolling hills and flatlands. The forces of nature at the coast, wave, wind, solar, are used to push it up over a lip and it flows down from there to where there is no tidal power.

Also, use rivers and dams off of local sources. The big push is the big water and lower sea levels, as well as purify earth’s water system.’

As far as Suction goes: an elastic rubber coated pipe and a huge initial push, slow to hard, to further the reach of siphoning. This should assist the suction process. There is also using Pump Assisted on both sides of the siphon suction. Assist the process. From going from the ocean or sea there is already wave power at a steady rate, and often wind and/or solar.

‘That don’t work!’ is not going to be good enough. Experiment.

‘You are the same type of people who probably thought something like hydraulics would never work, and always put stumbling blocks in the way with a blanket-statement shutdown.’

When I was a kid I sprayed water on the bottom side of a plastic lawn wind-flower, and watched it spin faster as just the bottom edge of the water hit the wheel. It ‘hummed’ at quick as it were. It put the zap on my head.

Visualize this as a specialized section of a Water Pipeline that splits into multiple pipes in certain sections to maximize the hydroelectric wheels. Part of the main flow should perhaps be kept so that the water reentering the pipeline is going into something with a faster current.

I later adapted that to a wind turbine realizing with water you could make it go all day long at a decent rate. I then thought of pressure to speed it up. I don’t know enough about gravity, pressure, and water speed to know if there is a goldilocks zone of higher output or not, nor how much the basic range that can be achieved is without that.

I assumed that the more times it rotates the more power it generates, but if it is just a power wheel with multiples the hydra is a mix between a water wheel and a water pipeline at it’s core, though it used solar, wind and wave power to assist it’s basic function.

If speed makes more electricity than perhaps maximum flow with a pressure region right near water jets would increase that, as well as power. It doesn’t stop up but keeps the flow and then a brief section of pressure to increase output at electricity generating regions.

Water is heavy and will push down on that smaller region that is slightly backed up to create pressure, and that may keep a better rate of flow and power, and this was done using something like ‘slack principle conceptually’ while inventing it.

“there is nothing ‘theoretical’ about that type of engineering, only ‘will it produce enough power to be viable’, and has anyone beat me to it”

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    • tetrahydronics
    • Posted June 5, 2011 at 1:12 am
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    My Steely-Eyed Missile-Man Moment.

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